Plumbing tips?

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Post by bertz_maru » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:48 pm

i have a question.. what size is your return? and those black nozzle thingies at the end of the returns? also whats the GPH rate for a standard 1 inch drain?

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Post by snoopdog » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:57 pm

Scott I am not seeing the need for the T's on the back of the bulkheads at the tank side. I know you have them so that it lets air into the line but they are not needed in your particular setup. What i originally meant by backpressure is if you have the straight pipe submerged in lets say 9 inches of water in the sump it will cause alot of backpressure if you are already close to your max on that line. I personally try to find what the max amount of water I will keep in the sump and then cut the pipe exactly at that mark. Yes you will have some splash right there but that can be resolved with either a lid on the sump or my 44 ounce plastic coke cup trick. Come to think of it your T's on the back of the tank can hinder your water flow, water pulls itself down the pipe and creates a suction, if you remove the suction you may lower the GPH of the pipe, try pulling them off.
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Post by Scott » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:14 pm

Bertz,
The return pump is a Mag 12 plumbed with 3/4" pipe to a T then 1/2 to two loclines. From everything that I have found a 1" pipe should be able to flow 1000-1200gph, that will be decreased with bends.

Kevin,
I see what you are saying now. I took the bottom piece of pipe off the drains so that it drops in the sump, still the same problem. I tried capping off the T's and i get a loud noise from the water flowing into the drains but is looks like more flow. I have a few ideas to try (hopefully tomorrow).
Wanted: to set up a tank again.

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Post by snoopdog » Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:02 am

Rich has his plumbed this way, may want to go take a look.
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Post by SaltnLime » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:00 am

Scott wrote:Bertz,
The return pump is a Mag 12 plumbed with 3/4" pipe to a T then 1/2 to two loclines. From everything that I have found a 1" pipe should be able to flow 1000-1200gph, that will be decreased with bends.

Kevin,
I see what you are saying now. I took the bottom piece of pipe off the drains so that it drops in the sump, still the same problem. I tried capping off the T's and i get a loud noise from the water flowing into the drains but is looks like more flow. I have a few ideas to try (hopefully tomorrow).
Two other options would be to have the drain lines submersed but with slits cut in them under the water line to decrease back pressure. You can also reduce the length of pipe that is underwater. This will also help if you plan on using a micron bag. You dont want to have to shut off you drain lines or submers the nasty bag under 9 inches of sump water to clear the bottom of the drain lines. :P Personally I'm thinking back pressure would be minimal.... if you pump is getting it in the tank then your drain lines will get it down to the sump....if they are not then you need more drain lines. :D
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Re: Plumbing tips?

Post by snoopdog » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:16 am

Why did you feel the need to resurrect a thread back from 2003 ?
"When they was no meat we ate fowl, when there was no fowl we ate crawdad. And when there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand."--Cellmate
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Post by Amphiprion » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:29 am

Because it's spam :p
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Post by snoopdog » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:49 am

I did not even read it, it was too early in the morning.
"When they was no meat we ate fowl, when there was no fowl we ate crawdad. And when there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand."--Cellmate
"You ate what?"--H.I.
"We ate sand."--Cellmate
"You ate sand?"--H.I.
"That's right."--Cellmate

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Post by AuroraDrvr » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:18 pm

So, that's a good way to bring you around? Resurrect really old threads? :lol:

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Post by snoopdog » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:35 pm

Worked didn't it ?
"When they was no meat we ate fowl, when there was no fowl we ate crawdad. And when there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand."--Cellmate
"You ate what?"--H.I.
"We ate sand."--Cellmate
"You ate sand?"--H.I.
"That's right."--Cellmate

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